I installed quick bit this morning and when I push the button the router does not stop it lifts the handibot up. Everything went well with install until it says you must install macro prior to first use push blue button that says install macro, I don't have a button that says that just two green buttons saying Measure Cutter Fabmo verison 1.5.2 and earlier, and Measure Fabmo version 1.6.0 and later. I pushed 1.6.0 and just keeps going does not stop? How do I install the macro, under macros their is one there but that is the old one with alligator clip.https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2899#msg-2899Tue, 21 Jul 2026 13:00:00 -0400 Phorum 5.2.22 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3741#msg-3741 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3741#msg-3741
My macro I wrote that uses it to sense tool hitting a know thickness block is broken.

I noticed even the macro the runs for your pressure sensing Z Quick Bit pad also still uses "ON INPUT" So buying that device seems pointless.

The latest "Fire Up" app for the swing out lever still uses "ON INPUT" and of course fails.

I also noticed the Input 3 led still comes on and off with cover closed and opened.

So what is the detailed resolution for this situation?

Keith Bright]]> Keith Bright Handibot ForumFri, 19 Aug 2022 11:11:50 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3073#msg-3073 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3073#msg-3073I think there are terrific contributors in this community and I’m sure Shopbot can get benefits form the insights, questions, requirements and developments of Handibot users. If the community were more active the feedback would greatly improve.
I can’t agree more that the Edison is not the way of the future and I would suggest that you turn to a platform like the Raspberry Pi which apart from the technical advantages, has a huge user base and an a worldwide extended community of users developing, trying and testing the most incredible applications. Although probably the Ethernet thing is not an issue for the Industrial machines, I think the RPi offers the best of both worlds (WiFi and Ethernet) in a simple and inexpensive platform. But I guess this is a subject for another topic.]]> mvsepulve Handibot ForumMon, 09 Apr 2018 15:07:26 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3072#msg-3072 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3072#msg-3072
Trying out so much new technology on the Handibot V2 has been more challenging than anyone expected. We've been a bit let down by our choice of chip for the FabMo controller--the Intel Edison. Widespread adoption of the Edison never really materialized in the way that it has for other platforms like the raspberry pi or the beagle bone (other chips that we were considering). In fact, Intel has discontinued the Edison and we've only managed to continue production by buying up large quantities of their remaining inventory ahead of time.

The wifi has been the biggest issue--even with an antenna, the broadcast strength of the Edison is lacking. This becomes really obvious when you run the tool direct through a router (using an ethernet connection). I've got a couple of mini wifi routers that I've tried out--and when the signal is managed by the superior hardware of the routers, connections become much more reliable. There is the option of a hard connection to the tool over ethernet--but that kind of fails at the initial goal of a wireless tool.

My goal is to remind everyone working on the project that these are real tools out in the real world and people are relying on them. I'll continue to do everything I can to support them and will keep everyone informed about new features and performance improvements that become available.]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumMon, 09 Apr 2018 10:20:18 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3071#msg-3071 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3071#msg-3071For me there is no way back though, so I will wait for the 1.7.0 release to try the “ON INPUT” command.
Thanks]]> mvsepulve Handibot ForumSun, 08 Apr 2018 19:31:48 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3070#msg-3070 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3070#msg-3070
PZ is short for Probe-Z it was a command introduced in the 1.6.0 release of FabMo. The syntax is P(axis), distance to probe, speed to move at, input to look for

Unfortunately at the same time that this new command was introduced--the older command "ON INPUT" was eliminated. On input was a very useful logical command in SB3 which allowed you to execute any bit of code after a certain input achieved a certain status.

"ON INPUT (1,1) GOTO Finish
MZ, -5
Finish:
ZZ

means, run the following code until input #1 is closed (in other words: is set to "1"), then GOTO the "Finish" subroutine. You can also use ON INPUT (1,0) meaning that you'll be checking for when input #1 opens. A lot of creative stuff can be done this way.

The probing routines do not yet allow checking for a switch opening (unless you change the status of the switch to "active high" in config)--and it only appears to work in the X Y and Z axes.

After a lot of discussion with our software group, we've decided to reintroduce the ON INPUT command in the upcoming 1.7.0 release. The main argument from me was that the original quick-bit app relied on this ON INPUT command to function--and when it unexpectedly stops working, it can be pretty shocking--and there is no harm in having both routines available.

If you're curious to try the On Input command, you can go back to the 1.4.2 release--but of course, this release does not have the Probe commands active...so none of the new macros will work...]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumSun, 08 Apr 2018 13:37:47 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3069#msg-3069 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3069#msg-3069Thanks for providing more background to understand the macro programming tricks for the Handibot. I’m curious about your last statement: “until the PB command is available.”
I have been trying to understand how the macros are programmed and the OpenSBP Command language and in macro_2.sbp for the Handibot2 platform, I found a “PZ “ command (PZ, &reapproach, &ZZeroSearchSpeedSlow, $ZZeroInput) of which I have not been able to find any reference to.
I reviewed both the ShopBot Control Software Quick Reference Guide and the Command Reference for the ShopBot Control Software and OpenSBP ® Language (SBG00253150707CommandRefV3.doc) and found no “PZ” (nor “PX”,”PY”, “PB”) commands.
It will be great if you provide a lead to were is this P command documented?
Thanks in advance and best regards]]> mvsepulve Handibot ForumSun, 08 Apr 2018 10:39:10 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3064#msg-3064 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3064#msg-3064
The system variables for inputs are in the 50s range-- so input #1 is %(51) and input #5 is %(55) and of course closure is indicated by a status of 1 and open is indicated by 0 (you can change the default status of a switch in the inputs section of the configurations menu.

Just as a fun aside...I recently put together a routine to home a rotary axis--the "probing" in the rotary axis has not been enabled in fabmo yet...but as a workaround I made an IF THEN loop like this:

initializeB:
ZB
JB,1
IF %(55) = 0 THEN GOTO initializeB

Kind of a kludge but was pretty helpful in getting the tool to do what I wanted until the PB command is available.]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumFri, 06 Apr 2018 10:30:46 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3059#msg-3059 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3059#msg-3059I reviewed the code and noticed that the second line is commented:

' IF %(51) = 1 THEN GOTO Already_Triggered ' *not working yet ...

Wondering about why this is not working, I compared this code to macro_2.sbp code for the Handibot2 and noticed a different form to check the status of input #1.

My question is if there is any special reason not to use it in the code you sent me, like so:

' -------- Main Program Section --------
GOSUB check_input


...
' --- Subroutines ---


check_input:
IF %(51) = 1 THEN GOTO check_input_fail
RETURN

check_input_fail:
END "Input switch is already tripped. Cannot zero the tool. Move Off Switch and Retry."

I don’t have my Handibot available so I will not be able to give it a try.
Please your comments.]]> mvsepulve Handibot ForumThu, 05 Apr 2018 13:45:44 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3058#msg-3058 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3058#msg-3058 mvsepulve Handibot ForumWed, 04 Apr 2018 16:21:28 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3057#msg-3057 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3057#msg-3057You'll just need to update the macro (code snippet) that runs the routine. I'll attach the updated routine here.]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumWed, 04 Apr 2018 16:01:52 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3055#msg-3055 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3055#msg-3055The Quick Bit Pressure sensitive Z Zero Plate User Manual describes the installation of the QB in a Handibot Adventure. In pictures 11 shows the input connections on the interface board and in number 12 tells to connect QB black wire to GND and red wire to IP5.
I have a Handibot V.1 with an different interface board. The inputs on my interface board are labeled GND, IP1, IP2...IP4 an +5; no IP5. Only IP1 and +5 are free.
Does the Handiboat V1 interface board have an (electronically) equivalent connector to the IP5 on the Handibot Adventure?
It’s possible to connect the Quick Bit to either IP1 or +5 in the Handiboartd V1 interface board? Which one is recommended?]]> mvsepulve Handibot ForumWed, 04 Apr 2018 14:02:00 -0400 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3003#msg-3003 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3003#msg-3003
Check out my response in the stop button thread--I think that these two things are related to the same issue of connection latency. I've never been happy with the wireless response time on FabMo and I think that direct connectivity is going to be the best way forward here. We've been so intent on eliminating the tether but I think that the performance improvements from a direct connection make it absolutely worth the extra effort.

Brian]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumMon, 05 Mar 2018 11:43:58 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3000#msg-3000 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,3000#msg-3000 rasbldrs Handibot ForumSun, 04 Mar 2018 06:45:26 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2941#msg-2941 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2941#msg-2941 Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumSun, 21 Jan 2018 13:46:33 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2940#msg-2940 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2940#msg-2940for some one who knows programming can it be that hard? just frustrated here.]]> rasbldrs Handibot ForumSun, 21 Jan 2018 06:25:39 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2939#msg-2939 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2939#msg-2939 rasbldrs Handibot ForumFri, 19 Jan 2018 04:38:41 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2938#msg-2938 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2938#msg-2938 rasbldrs Handibot ForumThu, 18 Jan 2018 17:18:57 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2937#msg-2937 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2937#msg-2937 rasbldrs Handibot ForumThu, 18 Jan 2018 17:15:02 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2936#msg-2936 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2936#msg-2936Format goes like this: VA, "new X position", "new Y position", "new Z position", "new A position".
So if your position before a crash was X=5, Y=3, Z=0.5 -- you'd go to the command line in SB4 and enter VA, 5, 3, 0.5 and it would set the values in the position readout to 3,5,0.5
Super clumsy cludge...but whenever I get a hangup like that I'll quickly jot down my current position just in case I have to do this.

I've had to go through a couple of versions of the Quick-Bit app while I adapted it to the new 1.6.0 release and there have been changes as recently as December 26--so it might be good to try installing the latest version for 1.6.0 users: [sites.google.com]

However--for 1.4.2 users the original app from the webstore will work best.]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumThu, 18 Jan 2018 16:59:53 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2935#msg-2935 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2935#msg-2935
If there was a way I could salvage a job after it freezes, i'd be willing to switch back to 1.6.1. But I can't think of any fool proof way. Maybe if there was a way to manually enter the current position of a bit. That way, I could just write down where it was and reset the unit, and reenter it.

-Dan]]> Daniel Block Handibot ForumThu, 18 Jan 2018 16:22:58 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2934#msg-2934 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2934#msg-2934
Was this one of the problems you had with 1.6.1 that was fixed by reverting to 1.4.2?]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumWed, 17 Jan 2018 09:31:05 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2933#msg-2933 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2933#msg-2933 rasbldrs Handibot ForumTue, 16 Jan 2018 20:16:10 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2932#msg-2932 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2932#msg-2932 Daniel Block Handibot ForumTue, 16 Jan 2018 18:10:59 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2931#msg-2931 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2931#msg-2931 rasbldrs Handibot ForumTue, 16 Jan 2018 17:29:26 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2928#msg-2928 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2928#msg-2928Here lemme post a screen-cap of where to look for input circuit closure.
The status bar highlighted in the screen-cap gives you the status of all inputs on your tool.
Input #5 is the input associated with your quick bit and it is set to "normally open" meaning that it only lights up white when the plate is pressed --which closes the circuit--and gives the tool the signal to stop and zero out the z axis.
You should be able to press on the quick-bit with your thumb and cause this indicator to light up.
If it does not light up--or if it stays lit up when no pressure is applied to the quick-bit...then that could be the source of the problem.]]> Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumTue, 16 Jan 2018 10:16:03 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2925#msg-2925 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2925#msg-2925 Mark Evans Handibot ForumMon, 15 Jan 2018 19:55:17 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2924#msg-2924 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2924#msg-2924 rasbldrs Handibot ForumMon, 15 Jan 2018 19:46:57 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2923#msg-2923 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2923#msg-2923 Mark Evans Handibot ForumMon, 15 Jan 2018 18:40:15 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2922#msg-2922 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2922#msg-2922 rasbldrs Handibot ForumMon, 15 Jan 2018 17:43:35 -0500 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2920#msg-2920 https://handibot.com/forum/read.php?2,2899,2920#msg-2920 Brian Owen, ShopBot Handibot ForumMon, 15 Jan 2018 14:30:32 -0500